{"id":10829,"date":"2026-05-15T14:45:17","date_gmt":"2026-05-15T14:45:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/culturalleft.org\/cl\/2026\/05\/15\/israel-what-went-wrong-holocaust-scholar-omer-bartov-haaretzs-gideon-levy-debate-zionism-democracy-now\/"},"modified":"2026-05-15T14:45:17","modified_gmt":"2026-05-15T14:45:17","slug":"israel-what-went-wrong-holocaust-scholar-omer-bartov-haaretzs-gideon-levy-debate-zionism-democracy-now","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/culturalleft.org\/cl\/2026\/05\/15\/israel-what-went-wrong-holocaust-scholar-omer-bartov-haaretzs-gideon-levy-debate-zionism-democracy-now\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Israel: What Went Wrong?&#8221;: Holocaust Scholar Omer Bartov &amp; Haaretz&#8217;s Gideon Levy Debate Zionism Democracy Now!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.democracynow.org\/2026\/5\/15\/omer_bartov_gideon_levy_israel_zionism\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.democracynow.org\/images\/story\/46\/82046\/w320\/SEG2-guests-split1.jpg\" alt=\"Seg2 guests split1\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We speak to two prominent Israeli thinkers, historian Omer Bartov and journalist Gideon Levy, about the founding beliefs of Zionism. Bartov, a professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Brown University, is the author of the new book <em>Israel: What Went Wrong?<\/em> Bartov says the early Zionist movement had liberatory intentions, aiming to emancipate the persecuted Jewish minority in Europe and modeling itself after other contemporary ethnonationalist movements. He then argues that while Israel had the opportunity to \u201cbecome a normal state\u201d and \u201cissue a constitution that would provide equality to all its citizens, would define its borders and create a legal framework\u201d that could also acknowledge and redress the Nakba, it chose another path. Instead of remedying its foundational violence, he says, the modern Israeli state has become increasingly \u201cmilitaristic, centralized, expansionist, racist and, as we\u2019ve seen since October 2023, genocidal.\u201d Though Bartov does not identify as an anti-Zionist, he says Israel \u201cmust discard Zionism, it must put it on the garbage heap of history, and it must redefine itself, going all the way back to 1948.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Levy, on the other hand, says Zionism has never been reformable, because the movement, from its very beginning, \u201cstarted wrong, without the belief or the conviction that we can live together.\u201d He contests Bartov\u2019s assertion that early Zionist intentions became warped over the 20th century, and says instead that the violent dispossession of Palestinians is embedded into the premise of the movement. \u201cThis very same attitude, this very same policy never stopped ever since \u201948,\u201d Levy contends. His latest piece in <em>Haaretz<\/em> is titled \u201cZionism Didn\u2019t Go Wrong, It Was Always Built This Way.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Both Bartov and Levy also respond to the Israeli government\u2019s threat to file a defamation lawsuit against <em>The New York Times<\/em> for publishing a column by longtime opinion writer Nicholas Kristof about systemic sexual abuse against Palestinian detainees in Israeli prisons. \u201cThat has become the policy of the country \u2014 to abuse, to humiliate, to rape systematically,\u201d says Bartov. 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